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		By: Mike Hallums		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Hallums]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My father, Victor John Hallums, was an engine fitter on 177 squadron Beaufighters based in Burma.  He told me that after the war had ended they were flown to an airfield near Chittagong and buried.  He said 32 big holes were bulldozed by the Americans and the Beaus were pushed in, then covered up.  Then the groundcrews were flown home in Liberators, which took days.   He said that before they left they became so bored so a few of the engineers converted a small aircraft air compressor to a piston engine.  On the day they left for home they tied it to a post, started it and left it running.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father, Victor John Hallums, was an engine fitter on 177 squadron Beaufighters based in Burma.  He told me that after the war had ended they were flown to an airfield near Chittagong and buried.  He said 32 big holes were bulldozed by the Americans and the Beaus were pushed in, then covered up.  Then the groundcrews were flown home in Liberators, which took days.   He said that before they left they became so bored so a few of the engineers converted a small aircraft air compressor to a piston engine.  On the day they left for home they tied it to a post, started it and left it running.</p>
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		By: Paul Grogan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Grogan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jst to clarify my point a little more, my friend George Russell was definitely on a British Royal Navy aircraft carrier when he was party to pushing Spitfire airframes and engines off the back and into the sea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jst to clarify my point a little more, my friend George Russell was definitely on a British Royal Navy aircraft carrier when he was party to pushing Spitfire airframes and engines off the back and into the sea.</p>
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		By: Rex Barron		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex Barron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.worldwarbirdnews.com/2012/10/19/burmese-spitfire-excavation-to-start-soon/#comment-24847&quot;&gt;Clive Williams&lt;/a&gt;.

Mr Penny may be all that but he did not participate in the Battle of Britain in any flying capacity. I have the entire list of those who flew during the accepted BoB dates including age, nationality, aircrew status, number of confirmed kills and probables and postings through what is some times a very short career.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.worldwarbirdnews.com/2012/10/19/burmese-spitfire-excavation-to-start-soon/#comment-24847">Clive Williams</a>.</p>
<p>Mr Penny may be all that but he did not participate in the Battle of Britain in any flying capacity. I have the entire list of those who flew during the accepted BoB dates including age, nationality, aircrew status, number of confirmed kills and probables and postings through what is some times a very short career.</p>
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		By: Clive Williams		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clive Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr Penny was, before the war, involved at Brooklands, where one of his first jobs was to carry some of the family of lucky folk who went up for a fifty bob circuit and bump trip, with Mr Penny along for the ride on his motor bike with pillion passengers for five bob a go.At lunchtimes at the famed regular pub on the Byfleet Road, the pilot passed over control to young Penny and he learned to fly around the Brooklands track if anyone turned up for a flight at lunchtime, so cutting his flying teeth. In 1939 he joined the R.A.F. and was based at Kenley, as a Flight Sergeant. He was promoted Flt.Lieutenant after home service and served in the Western Desert at that rank, and in Singapore. I was asked to speak to Mr Penny about getting his name in the BoB autograph album at The Imperial War Museum, which he did, by taxi from Moorfields Eye Hospital intransit to Waterloo Station after a consultation on his eyesight. Woking RAF charity knew Mr Penny. The autograph-hunter for the BoB book phoned me to express his thanks for introducing Mr Penny to the project from IWM.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Penny was, before the war, involved at Brooklands, where one of his first jobs was to carry some of the family of lucky folk who went up for a fifty bob circuit and bump trip, with Mr Penny along for the ride on his motor bike with pillion passengers for five bob a go.At lunchtimes at the famed regular pub on the Byfleet Road, the pilot passed over control to young Penny and he learned to fly around the Brooklands track if anyone turned up for a flight at lunchtime, so cutting his flying teeth. In 1939 he joined the R.A.F. and was based at Kenley, as a Flight Sergeant. He was promoted Flt.Lieutenant after home service and served in the Western Desert at that rank, and in Singapore. I was asked to speak to Mr Penny about getting his name in the BoB autograph album at The Imperial War Museum, which he did, by taxi from Moorfields Eye Hospital intransit to Waterloo Station after a consultation on his eyesight. Woking RAF charity knew Mr Penny. The autograph-hunter for the BoB book phoned me to express his thanks for introducing Mr Penny to the project from IWM.</p>
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		By: Rex Barron		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex Barron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.worldwarbirdnews.com/2012/10/19/burmese-spitfire-excavation-to-start-soon/#comment-24830&quot;&gt;Clive Williams,The Pippins, Staithe Road, Hickling, Norfolk, NR12 0YJ&lt;/a&gt;.

Unfortunately for this story there is no Penny, Flt lieutenant or otherwise, listed as a BoB pilot or aircrew.
If you you had seen the aft deck of a WW2 US destroyer you would realise that fitting one 35 foot crate would have been bloody hard work let alone trying to fit more than one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.worldwarbirdnews.com/2012/10/19/burmese-spitfire-excavation-to-start-soon/#comment-24830">Clive Williams,The Pippins, Staithe Road, Hickling, Norfolk, NR12 0YJ</a>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for this story there is no Penny, Flt lieutenant or otherwise, listed as a BoB pilot or aircrew.<br />
If you you had seen the aft deck of a WW2 US destroyer you would realise that fitting one 35 foot crate would have been bloody hard work let alone trying to fit more than one.</p>
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		By: Rex Barron		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rex Barron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The first thing to be dumped at the end of hostilities is excess ammunition. Under peace time regulations ammunition is expensive to store and transport, so armies dump and Governments turn a blind eye. There are entire reefs made of dumped ammo in the Pacific, the thought of somebody drilling down to see what is at the end of a radar picture next to Burma&#039;s International airport scares and horrifies me.

The time lines don&#039;t see to match up on this story........Slims army just made it to Rangoon at the end May they beat the monsoon by a few hours, it would have taken two to three weeks to secure and clear Mingladon airfields (there were three in a triangular pattern) for use as there were booby traps and they had been hammered by USAAF B17&#039;s and RAF Liberators. The Japs capitulated on the 2 October. So someone ordered a large number of Spitfires from Castle Bromwich and shipped them to Rangoon without any paperwork or manifests of any kind just as the existing Beaufighters and Spitfire Squadron that had been flown in from India were ordered to cease air patrols and concentrate on ground attack as total air superiority had been achieved.

RAF Mingladon stayed in British hands until the 1950&#039;s and was Burma&#039;s main airport, so you have to ask yourself why, with all the facilities, hangers all weather runways etc etc they took perfectly good Spitfires off the cargo boat and promptly buried them when the RAF had every intention of staying on as long as possible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing to be dumped at the end of hostilities is excess ammunition. Under peace time regulations ammunition is expensive to store and transport, so armies dump and Governments turn a blind eye. There are entire reefs made of dumped ammo in the Pacific, the thought of somebody drilling down to see what is at the end of a radar picture next to Burma&#8217;s International airport scares and horrifies me.</p>
<p>The time lines don&#8217;t see to match up on this story&#8230;&#8230;..Slims army just made it to Rangoon at the end May they beat the monsoon by a few hours, it would have taken two to three weeks to secure and clear Mingladon airfields (there were three in a triangular pattern) for use as there were booby traps and they had been hammered by USAAF B17&#8217;s and RAF Liberators. The Japs capitulated on the 2 October. So someone ordered a large number of Spitfires from Castle Bromwich and shipped them to Rangoon without any paperwork or manifests of any kind just as the existing Beaufighters and Spitfire Squadron that had been flown in from India were ordered to cease air patrols and concentrate on ground attack as total air superiority had been achieved.</p>
<p>RAF Mingladon stayed in British hands until the 1950&#8217;s and was Burma&#8217;s main airport, so you have to ask yourself why, with all the facilities, hangers all weather runways etc etc they took perfectly good Spitfires off the cargo boat and promptly buried them when the RAF had every intention of staying on as long as possible.</p>
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		By: James wilberger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James wilberger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[According to the Burma spitfire Facebook   the dig has been pushed back until jane 1st 2013 because the water table is to high .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the Burma spitfire Facebook   the dig has been pushed back until jane 1st 2013 because the water table is to high .</p>
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		By: Paul Grogan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Grogan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 09:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.worldwarbirdnews.com/2012/10/19/burmese-spitfire-excavation-to-start-soon/#comment-24830&quot;&gt;Clive Williams,The Pippins, Staithe Road, Hickling, Norfolk, NR12 0YJ&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi.
Just add a little more to the story about Spitfires being dumped overboard after the second world war. I used to work with a chap called George Russell (sadly died of a heart attack in 1978) and he was with the Royal Navy posted to Australia / Singapore at the end of the war. He told me he was part of the crew responsible for pushing airframes and engines - all crated up and never used - off the back of the aircraft carrier. Apparently, they used to steal all the Rolls Royce engine tools kits out of the crates and sell them for their beer money!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.worldwarbirdnews.com/2012/10/19/burmese-spitfire-excavation-to-start-soon/#comment-24830">Clive Williams,The Pippins, Staithe Road, Hickling, Norfolk, NR12 0YJ</a>.</p>
<p>Hi.<br />
Just add a little more to the story about Spitfires being dumped overboard after the second world war. I used to work with a chap called George Russell (sadly died of a heart attack in 1978) and he was with the Royal Navy posted to Australia / Singapore at the end of the war. He told me he was part of the crew responsible for pushing airframes and engines &#8211; all crated up and never used &#8211; off the back of the aircraft carrier. Apparently, they used to steal all the Rolls Royce engine tools kits out of the crates and sell them for their beer money!</p>
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		By: Clive Williams		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clive Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr Penny was very clear about the spits which were apparently taken from RAF Changi in Singapore to be loaded onto a (U.K./USA/AUSSIE Destroyer and then pushed off the back of said destroyer by his RAF blokes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Penny was very clear about the spits which were apparently taken from RAF Changi in Singapore to be loaded onto a (U.K./USA/AUSSIE Destroyer and then pushed off the back of said destroyer by his RAF blokes.</p>
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		By: Geoff.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My neighbour told me he heard that loads of crated spits and others where dumped off the coast of australia by the RN never read anything anywhere about them though ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My neighbour told me he heard that loads of crated spits and others where dumped off the coast of australia by the RN never read anything anywhere about them though ?</p>
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